Customer JTBD Interviewing Skills

6 Weeks

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Cohort-based Course

Upgrade your JTBD interviewing game. Learn the full process— from planning to execution—practice interviews that uncover customer progress.

Course overview

Aquire the skills and methods to perform Customer JTBD interviews yourself:

Acquire the Skills to Run Customer JTBD Interviews with Confidence


🔍 Stop guessing why customers buy. Instead, learn how to uncover the real stories of progress that shape decisions.


Most customer interviews fall short.


Why? Because teams often:

❌ Ask about features instead of struggles

❌ Accept surface-level answers

❌ Miss the non-obvious jobs that drive switching behavior


This hands-on Customer JTBD Interviewing Skills course helps you break those habits and master a repeatable, end-to-end JTBD Research Process.


You won’t just “learn the theory”—you’ll practice it live, using a real-world case study of your choice, and walk away with insights you can 💡 immediately apply to product, marketing, and sales decisions.


What You’ll Learn (and Practice)


🧠 Formulate Better Hypotheses

Stop chasing assumptions. Learn how to craft hypotheses that uncover motivations and struggles to make progress—not just product ideas.


🎯 Plan + Recruit with Precision

Discover overlooked contexts and triggers that make or break interviews. Recruit participants who reveal the full spectrum of jobs—including the hidden ones.


📝 Use Structured Storytelling Prompts

Move beyond “Tell me about yourself.” Practice interview cards and prompts (life events, triggers, retell in detail, playback) that pull customers into narrative mode and reveal hidden forces.


🤝 Run Team-Based JTBD Interviews

Split facilitator vs. listener roles to capture richer insights. Leverage The Wheel of Progress® framework to uncover drivers of behavior most teams overlook.


🌱 Spot Non-Obvious Jobs & Patterns

Train your ear to hear what others miss: anxieties, habits, switching triggers, and compensating behaviors. Then synthesize them into clear demand clusters and opportunity areas.


✍️ Write Desire for Progress Statements That Stick

Go beyond personas. Create living, testable progress statements that capture what customers are really trying to achieve—and directly align with product, marketing, and sales.



BONUS MATERIALS:

- Get Customer JTBD Mural Board for conducting customer jobs-to-be-done research using The Wheel of Progress(R)

- Get the 12 Elements of Progress listening framework for conducting team-based interviews

- Get Customer JTBD Card Deck (62 digital cards) color-coded to match 12 Elements of Progress (additional $99 VALUE)

Who is this course for

01

The Marketer who wants to better tailor their messaging to the core jobs-to-be-done (aspirational, functional, emotional, social)

02

A Product Manager who wants to fall in love with problem (based upon jTBD research) prior to thinking about the solution.

03

The Designer or Researcher who wants to better understand constraints or behavioral-based barriers to customer progress.

04

The Product Trio (PM, UX, Tech) who want to learn how to improve the customer interview process as a team (multiple perspectives).

What you’ll get out of this course

🎯 Master the full E2E JTBD Research Process

Learn a repeatable framework for planning and conducting customer interviews that actually uncover why people switch.

🧑‍🤝‍🧑 Practice both facilitator + listener roles

Step into the room as both the one asking questions and the one catching nuance — so you never miss hidden insights.

🛠️ Run JTBD interviews as a team

Learn how to plan, structure, and execute team-based interviews that eliminate bias and capture a richer picture of customer struggles.

🧠 Aggregate and synthesize insights across interviews

Turn messy raw conversations into clear patterns of demand, progress, and opportunity.

🔦 Spot non-obvious jobs competitors miss

Learn to hear the anxieties, compensating behaviors, and hidden triggers buried in customer stories.

📝 Formulate Desire for Progress Statements that stick

Craft statements that capture real customer intent — language you can plug directly into product roadmaps, marketing copy, and sales enablement.

🚀 Confidence in avoiding the top 5 interviewing mistakes

No more overlooking context, stopping at surface answers, or asking solution-led questions.

What’s included

JOHN GUSIFF

Live sessions

Learn directly from JOHN GUSIFF in a real-time, interactive format.

Lifetime access

Go back to course content and recordings whenever you need to.

Community of peers

Stay accountable and share insights with like-minded professionals.

Certificate of completion

Share your new skills with your employer or on LinkedIn.

Maven Guarantee

This course is backed by the Maven Guarantee. Students are eligible for a full refund up until the halfway point of the course.

Course syllabus

6 live sessions • 22 lessons

Week 1

Oct 22—Oct 26

    Oct

    22

    Session 1: Introduction and Overview of E2E JTBD Research Process

    Wed 10/225:00 PM—7:00 PM (UTC)

    The Focus of Your Research (different types of Customer JTBD interviews)

    1 item

    Selecting a Case Study

    1 item

    Formulating a Hypothesis for Job Performer/Job-to-be-done

    0 items

    Determining your Recruitment Strategy

    1 item

    Planning your Customer JTBD Research (end-to-end process)

    1 item

    Reviewing Milestones for Case Study Execution (recruiting, interviewing, etc.)

    0 items

Week 2

Oct 27—Nov 2

    Oct

    27

    Session 2: Select a Case Study for your Team

    Mon 10/275:00 PM—7:00 PM (UTC)

    Formulate a Hypothesis around your Case Study

    1 item

    Customer JTBD Interview Spectrum

    1 item

    Customer JTBD Interview Structure

    3 items

    Customer JTBD Interview Structure using JTBD Cards

    4 items

    Customer JTBD Interviews (Team roles and responsibilities)

    3 items

    Revisit the Milestones for Case Study Execution (recruiting, interviewing, etc.)

    0 items

    Oct

    29

    Office Hours (Interview Structure)

    Wed 10/295:00 PM—6:00 PM (UTC)

Week 3

Nov 3—Nov 9

    Nov

    5

    Office Hours: Focus on Interview Execution

    Wed 11/56:00 PM—7:00 PM (UTC)

    Recruitment Strategy

    1 item

    Case Study: Preparing for Customer JTBD Interviews (as a Team)

    0 items

    Case Study: Recruitment of Participants for Customer JTBD Interviews

    0 items

Week 4

Nov 10—Nov 16

    General Guidelines for Conduction JTBD Interviews

    1 item

    Case Study: Performing Customer JTBD Interviews (as a Team)

    1 item

Week 5

Nov 17—Nov 23

    Nov

    19

    Session 3: Case Study Check-in and Synthesizing Multiple Interviews

    Wed 11/196:00 PM—8:00 PM (UTC)

    Team Case Study Check-ins (status, progress, schedule, etc.)

    0 items

    Customer JTBD Interview Aggregation and Synthesis Process

    1 item

    Desire Progress Statements

    1 item

Week 6

Nov 24—Nov 26

    Nov

    26

    Session 4: Case Study Share Outs and Other Topics

    Wed 11/266:00 PM—8:00 PM (UTC)

    Team Case Study Shareouts

    1 item

    Group Discussion around Case Study Shareouts

    0 items

    Key Takeaways and Lessons Learned from Customer JTBD Interview Process

    0 items

What people are saying

        Capturing and organising ‘jobs’ in real time during interviews can be the toughest part of applying JTBD theory. However, John has a great skill in simplifying the art of job interviews into tangible steps. His Mural templates and interview approaches make it easy for anyone to build the confidence to start conducting JTBD interviews.
Don Garza

Don Garza

Service Designer, Opencast
        We leveraged the jobs-to-be-done process to identify opportunities to improve our on-boarding experience, helping new Gympass members find the right plan, gym or studio for themselves along with getting started on their wellness journey.
Minh Tran

Minh Tran

Senior Director of CX Gympass
        The Forces and Desires Model taught in this course is like 'gold'. It helped us build a better understanding of homeowner motivations and switching behavior related to moving in, repairing, upgrading, maintaining or improving their home.
Kyle Sandburg

Kyle Sandburg

Former VP Strategy, Porch.com
        John has taught customer jobs-to-be-done based methods to clients across industries. He is skilled at both teaching and utilizing when conducting JTBD-based insights research.
Eckhart Boehme

Eckhart Boehme

Creator of The Wheel of Progress® framework

Meet your instructor

JOHN GUSIFF

JOHN GUSIFF

CX Strategist

John Gusiff is the Managing Partner for Customer Centric Solutions LLC. He founded the company in 2002 after spending 15 years helping leading brands across B2C, B2B, and B2B2C industries, design and implement customer acquisition, engagement, service, and retention strategies.


He is passionate about improving the lives of customers via human-centered design and design thinking methods. He leverages customer jobs-to-be-done (jtbd) insights research along with applied behavioral science when consulting with his clients.


He has worked directly with executives in marketing, sales, product development, customer service and support functions to help them rethink how they better service their customers and implement the processes, organization, and technology to support it.


Clients have included: American Honda, Canada Goose, Citibank, Ecobee, G Adventures, Gympass, Humana, Porch, lululemon, Royal Ambulance, Shaklee, and TransAlta.

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Customer JTBD Interviewing Skills

Cohort 7

$750

Dates

Oct 22—Nov 26, 2025

Payment Deadline

Oct 25, 2025
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Course schedule

Four Weeks; 6-8 hours for Case Study

  • Four Cohort Sessions

    1.5 to 2 hrs per session of Instruction

    This course is designed for multiple Teams to each go through a Case Study of their collective choice from start to finish. Planning, conducting, and synthesizing findings across two to four customer JTBD interviews.

  • The Case Study Itself

    6 to 8 hours

    Outside of LIVE cohort class sessions to provide guidance and direction, educate on methods, check-in, and review share outs by each team.


    An additional 6 to 8 hours will be required by your Teams to recruit participants, conduct the interviews, and synthesize findings.

  • Maven Community

    Leveraging the Maven community for posting announcements, reading materials, general discussion, and takeaways from the class.

Learning is better with cohorts

Learning is better with cohorts

Active hands-on learning

This course builds on live workshops and hands-on projects

Interactive and project-based

You’ll be interacting with other learners through breakout rooms and project teams

Learn with a cohort of peers

Join a community of like-minded people who want to learn and grow alongside you

Frequently Asked Questions

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Join an upcoming cohort

Customer JTBD Interviewing Skills

Cohort 7

$750

Dates

Oct 22—Nov 26, 2025

Payment Deadline

Oct 25, 2025
Get reimbursed

$750

USD

6 Weeks